National Ammo Day BUYcott, Nov 19
Update 2005-11-15: Please see this post first for an update
I know I’m a late comer to the fold, but I’d like to let everyone know I’m fully behind the concept of National Ammo Day.
The idea here is this is an ammunition BUYcott. What you are doing is here is letting people know, by voting with your dollars, of your support of the Right to Keep and Bear Arms. You go to your local gun store, hardware store, or department store and buy at least 100 round to put in the hands of the normally law abiding. November 19 is the day, and if you have any more questions, you can click on the above link and get more information.
Having said that, I’d like to add one more small request. This year after the hurricane Katrina, Mall-Wart decided that it would be best if they shut down their sales of firearms. I’m sure most of my readers are RKBA supporters and they understand how important the firearms were to the protection of the non-looting public. I would like to request that this year, that you do your BUYcott somewhere else, anywhere else than Mall-Wart. Hopefully they will see a little dip in sales and make the connection.
Mall-Wart can sell what they want, and I’m sure they thought the shutdown either made themselves look better or covered their asses. After all, they would hate to have had sold anything to the looters. But looters loot and the shutdown affected mostly just innocent people. Let’s vote with our dollars and let Mall-Wart know that next time, doing that would be a bad idea.
And as a final note, If you know me and I haven’t taken you plinking lately, or at all, and you are interested, please let me know. If you are a non-firearm owner you don’t have to buy your own ammo, but you are welcome to go support ammo day anyway.
Update 2005-11-10: There seems to be a number of people who are planning to coordinate their purchase at the same time at Mall-Wart. Besides the fact that y’all have failed to even try to munge the store’s proper name, and the store in question most likely googles regularly for it’s own trademark (so it won’t really be a surprise), I’m of the opinion that the message I’m trying to send (a one day boycott of only one class of product) is a bit more important than your fun. Is there any way I can get you to change your mind? Perhaps put it off for a bit?
There also seems to be the suggestion of picking up a copy of Red Dawn on DVD. I love it! I haven’t seen that movie in a few years but it’s one of my favorites. Ordinary people pick up arms and make a difference in the fight against a foreign enemy. Very un-politically correct, we are suppose to let the military keep us safe. I’ll likely join you here, but no ammo.
Leah Says :
query: how is this store’s decision not to stock guns any different from the pharmacist that you think should be allowed to refuse to sell EC? It’s up to the store to decide what they do and don’t want to stock.
Also, how would you feel if a store clerk decided s/he was antigun and would not dispense/ring up a gun or ammo purchase at a megastore like this? Would you say that is their right, or would you be upset because it’s your right to purchase it?
2005-11-11 18:17 PermalinkStandard Mischief Says :
It?s up to the store to decide what they do and don?t want to stock. -Leah
Yup, entirely up to them. I do not support laws that would require a store to either sell guns or sell drugs. If Kwik-E-Mart decided to stop selling tofu-dogs that’s their decision. It’s my decision whether or not I still want to buy my stuff from there. I’m also free to try to encourage my friends not to shop there either. And hopefully I could let Kwik-E-Mart know that tofu-dogs were really really important to a large segment of their buying public and it would be in their best interest to start carrying them again. Otherwise we may all go over to Circle-J to buy our tofu-dogs
My buddy works at a gun store. One of the things he has said to customers (that looked like gang members) was “this isn’t the post office, we do not have to sell to you”. Each time he does something like that, he risks a public backlash. So far, though he’s been OK. If a bigbox sales-drone refused to sell to me, I’d likely be pretty pissed, but if I was drunk or something he might have a very good reason. If it’s just because he’s an anti-gun person, I’d likely call management and get it straightened out.
I have money. I want to buy ammo. I’m an OK possessor of ammo. BigBox wants to make money. That sales-drone is toast.
I’m a strung out meth freak. I want to buy a case of sudfed. Sales drone says no. Management backs up sales-drone. The police are called if I don’t leave quietly.
(thanks for dropping by)
2005-11-11 19:39 PermalinkResistance is futile! Says :
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2005-11-11 22:19 PermalinkJoe Says :
You seem to be confused. Consider Target and Walmart. One of them sells guns. One of them doesn’t. One of them sells ammunition. One of them doesn’t. One of then was asked to stop selling ammo and guns by the city I live in. They responded “no.”
Walmart is gun friendly. They sell guns and ammo in locations where it is unpopular. They donate to the GOP. Target doesn’t sell guns or ammo. Mark Dayton (Target) is a Senator from Minnesota. He has a (D) after his title.
You my friend, are confused. I buy ammo at Walmart. I buy guns there too. I will continue to do so as they support my rights.
The left hates Walmart for a reason. I’m not a moonbat and I don’t support moonbats. Do you?
2005-11-12 22:27 PermalinkKevin Baker Says :
I will be one of (if everyone who says they will, does) over 1,400 AR15.com members who will be buying at Wal*Mart on the 19th.
We just want to put a big spike in their database software.
Might be interesting.
And anyway, I’m with Joe on this one. (Except I don’t buy guns there. They don’t stock what I like.)
2005-11-13 00:57 PermalinkStandard Mischief Says :
Thanks for the comment.
I like Wal-Mart. They hardly invented their market niche, yet they have succeeded, where K-mart had already had decades of a head start. They sell ammo. They support the shooting sports. I drive past my local Kmart (2 miles) to go to my local Wal-Mart (10 miles). I don’t even think about spending anything at Target, because of their prior support of the (no where near a) Million Misguided Mothers.
I have a 20mm ammo can downstairs full of Wal-Mart/Federal bulk packed .22 ammo. Before I gather together with my extended family around Christmas time, I’m more than likely going to pick up some clays and a few boxes of shot shells.
On November 19, I’m gonna hit my local Wal-Mart and try to pick up a copy of Red Dawn, but I’ll buy my ammo at the local gun shop this year. Those people who run Wal-Mart aren’t dummies. They know about Ammo Day. They have seen the run on ammo in prior years. If I can talk enough people into not buying ammo there for just this one day, (realistically, I’m calling for just a one day boycott on only one category of product) perhaps they will think twice about shutting down sales during a disaster.
Just to drive the point home, though. I think I’ll sent a letter to Wal-mart, explaining my actions, and asking them not to cut off sales during a natural emergency in the future.
I hope that explains where I’m coming from, unless of course you think Wal-Mart did the right thing shutting down sales to all the people who suddenly realized that they critically needed a firearm to keep themselves safe. If you think there was a net gain of lawless looters denied a firearm balanced against the law abiding who were just trying to keep themselves safe, then I’m afraid I can’t help you.
2005-11-13 20:46 PermalinkDavid Says :
The reason for buying the ammo at Wal-Mart was in part because a large purchase of 9mm ammo (1000 rounds?) was reported by Wal-Mart to the police. Therefore we wanted to have large purchases made at Wal-Mart to see if BATFE is going to starting knocking on thousands of doors after being notified by Wal-Mart.
2005-11-15 13:25 PermalinkLeah Says :
I’m part of the left who doesn’t shop at Walmart, but I’d hardly say their decision to stock ammo is part of it. In fact, I do own my own .22 rifle, tho I don’t use it often.
I don’t shop at Walmart b/c of their environmental impact, their social impact, and the fact that I really can’t stand (1) shopping and (2) being places without windows. Walmart is well-designed to get people in and keep them shopping, and I can’t stand that environment.
SM, my comparison was to point out that I think it’s strange that you don’t seem to mind when the pharmacies don’t want to sell BC. I suppose you don’t buy BC [I think you're a guy, right?], so it wouldn’t matter much to you. Obviously, you spend your dollars at a place that you agree with. I definitely wouldn’t spend my dollars at any of those pharmacies if I knew their policies, because I don’t agree with holding back BC.
Also, one last thought: I don’t think it was horrible that they shut off ammo purchases during a national emergency. Shouldn’t any person who intends to use ammo for protection have a sufficient stockpile? I’m sure I’ve got .22s knocking around here somewhere, and I don’t even use my gun more than twice a year (target shooting with my brother — I don’t trust anyone else I know enough to let them hold a gun around me). If you intend to guard your house utilizing guns and ammo, it’s your responsibility to keep that stockpile yourself. If someone bangs down your door, you don’t want to have to go to Walmart before you can get them out of your house, do you?
2005-11-15 16:37 PermalinkStandard Mischief Says :
Hey, you are a woman that owns a firearm and can’t stand shopping? Wow, can you drive a stick shift, shoot straight and tell the truth too?
How about live within your means? It’s too bad you live on the other coast. If you get over this ways or I get over that-a-ways we’ll have to go plinking sometime.
I said twice in the emergency contraceptive post that I was male, perhaps you were seeing red and missed that part?
According to the linked article, Wal*Mart stopped selling guns during Katrina. I assume they also stopped selling ammo too, but I can’t confirm that. The linked article didn’t say that.
http://www.boston.com/news/weather/articles/2005/09/11/halted_gun_sales_infuriate_customers/
I think the halted gun sales directly effected people who suddenly realized something I’ve been saying all along, the police can’t protect you. This is nothing new, there was rioting and lawlessness after Hurricane Andrew also, as well as plenty of other times in the past. I’m pretty sure the looters didn’t rush to the store to do the ?instant background check? and buy a gun, to start raping and looting with, so this shutdown by Wal*Mart directly affected only the newly converted people who would not have an arms stockpile yet. Here is a particularly telling quote from the above link.
Hell yea!
Let me repeat, Wal*mart has every right to stop selling guns and ammo at any time, for any reason. I have every right to disagree with that decision though.
Here is a particularly weasely quote from a wesasly Wal*Mart spokesperson.
Translation- ?We were afraid of some horrible PR, maybe some loonie that’s off his prozac and out on parole goes and shoots up the Astrodome . When he is captured, he has a Wal*Mart receipt in his pocket?.
You are going to have to expand on ?environmental impact? and ?social impact?, because I’m unaware of the issues. The layout of the stores are near enough to the stores I like to call J-mart and red dot/bullseye,[1] so I guess you are not shopping there either. There’s surely a demand for those types of stores, but you are free to disagree with them and try to convince others.
I am unaware of any chain that refuses to sell birth control. If you can confirm that any chain refuse to sell it, let me know, I’ll put it on the front page. I’d also wonder why there isn’t a national boycott already in place.
I am also unaware of any chain that refuses to sell, as an official corporate policy, emergency contraceptive. I already took a stand and said I would boycott such a chain. I also already stated that you can substitute birth control pills for emergency contraceptive, and I published a list. I suggested that women could get birth control pills and stockpile them for an emergency. Wouldn’t you be a hero if one of your girlfriends needed it because of some bad thing and you stepped in and saved the day for them?
Absolutely. but like I said, these were recent converts to the fold. I’m sure they will never ever rely on the whim of a store to be sure they have their critical needs met.
If you read the rest of my blog, you will realized that I’m a ?libertarian leaning? person, who does not identify with either the left or the right. I anti-corporate-personhood, but pro-capitalism. The government should have some power to control run-a-muck corporations, but exactly how much power they should have, I haven’t exactly nailed down yet. Certainly forcing a company to sell a product or to sell at a certain price is over that line. I do know capitalism has brought us many gifts like affordable antibiotics and 550 pieces of bulk packed Federal .22 ammo for less than two sawbucks, and I’m loathe to throttle it needlessly.
[1] J-mart is actually a small store in Bowie, MD that’s known for it’s subs, soft serve, and mini-golf. It just recently shut down for some reason. Bullseye and Red Dot are popular ammo reloading powders.
2005-11-15 19:58 PermalinkLeah Says :
eep. I obviously responded to pretty much all of this in an email
however, this is why I don’t shop at Walmart, in addition to all the other reasons listed. I’m lapenn on there, btw. I’d much rather pay a little more and get specialized, dedicated service that I have found at local stores (camera shop, sewing store, little bookstores, etc). In general, Walmart hires for a cheap work force. Good stores hire (and keep on) good employees who care about what they do.
2005-11-16 15:27 Permalink