Standard Mischief

Fully informed Juries v. the Meat-bots from California

So if you are following along with the thread I pointed out on Monday, you’ll notice that I didn’t really received an answer to my question, probably because what I’m looking for really isn’t out there. Zuzu pointed to the Federal Rules of Evidence, but didn’t really explain or point to a well argued essay explaining why juries are supposed to apply the law as written, not as they wish it might be.

Then, of course, she accused me of thread-jacking. Well the topic did wander a bit, but that was never my intent, and I’ll claim I was aided and abetted by some lady who claims she has three years of law school and ten years of federal litigation practice.

The deal is that the Federal Rules of Evidence were adopted well past the William Penn landmark case, and in any event I was looking for the reasoning behind those rules, not the rules themselves.

Before Penn’s case, juries in England were frequently packed with crown supporters or were threatened with punishment unless they issued the proper verdict, in this instance they returned a verdict of not guilty to the charge of preaching an illegal sermon. The judge was not at all pleased and sent Penn back to jail for contempt, and fined and held the jury for three days without food or water.

When the dust had settled, we ended up with not only a common law right to practice a religion of one’s choosing, but also the right to be tried by a juries that could also judge whether or not the law was a just one, or whether it was fairly applied.

Nowadays, in California, after the Voir Dire process, but before the jury is impaneled, they are required to swear an oath:

“Do you, and each of you, understand and agree that you will well and truly try the cause now pending before this court, and a true verdict render according only to the evidence presented to you and to the instructions of the court?”

This roughly translates into “will you be a meat-bot for the judiciary of the state of California?”, as it does not allow for the jury to nullify a poorly applied law or a law that is clearly unconstitutional.

John Silveira wrote an excellent article about California’s effort to only impaneled the meat-bots. Thankfully, Backwoods Home magazine has put the short and worthy-of-your-time article online for me to point you to. Go read it. This is the money quote here, but it does not spoil the ending:


What the state wants are machines and people who think and are predictable like machines. But if this is how justice is to be dispensed in the United States, then God help us.

2007-01-17 08:00 by Standard Mischief, Filed under:deranged rants   2 Comments »

Comments

  1. Skip Walters Says :

    I love the “meat-bot” term, and yes, the jury instructions do ask you on the surface to be one.
    However, just because you say you are going to be a meat-bot, doesn’t mean you will be a true and faithful government meat-bot.
    The law isn’t written to create a predictible machine that dispenses the justice that the government wants, the law is written so to the best effort possible, individual prejudice is eliminated and sentences are passed based on the evidence that is legally allowed to be presented in a court of law.
    More often than not, the information that is not allowed to be entered into evidence is evidence of guilt, so don’t think the system is skewed such that it prevents a person from defending theirself.

    2008-02-22 15:05 Permalink
  2. Standard Mischief Says :

    The law isn’t written to create a predictible machine that dispenses the justice that the government wants, the law is written so to the best effort possible, individual prejudice is eliminated and sentences are passed based on the evidence that is legally allowed to be presented in a court of law.

    The problem is that sometimes the government gets out of whack with its number one goal, leaving people alone when their actions don’t harm anyone else. Juries act as a check-and- balance, by either hanging the jury or refusing outright to convict. For some reason, judges and lawyers hate that crap, and they throw up roadblocks to try to keep people from doing that. This is an obvious example.

    There are any of a number of reasons why a particular law should not be applied as written. The law could be blatantly unconstitutional (flag burning), or the defendant could be protected by another federal law, the existence of which could be unfairly kept from the jury (I’m thinking of Ed Rosenthal here), or there could be special circumstances (parking in a handicapped spot while rushing a stroke victim to the emergency room comes to mind).

    2008-02-23 23:10 Permalink

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