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1. Phil Welch Says :

   He didn’t really say anything unreasonable. AR-15s aren’t good hunting rifles. They’re good for the range and for guerrilla warfare against the government (the two main reasons people carry them), but the only reason you’d carry one hunting is to feel like a badass.

   And considering how many Palestinians have raided Israeli armories or taken rifles off dead Israeli soldiers, there’s probably plenty of terrorists using M16s.

   2007-02-18 18:51 Permalink

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   2007-02-18 19:18 Permalink

3. Standard Mischief Says :

   He didn’t really say anything unreasonable. AR-15s aren’t good hunting rifles.

   he said:

   I’ll go so far as to call them “terrorist” rifles.

   I’ll say: “I’ll go so far as to call them “homeland defense” rifles”.

   The AR-15 firearms (the ones in .223) are considered underpowered for deer and overpowered for squirrel, but the .223 is great stuff for varmint hunting, like the hunt that Jim was on when he stuck his foot in his mouth.

   There are also AR rifles that shoot 7.62×39 which are fine for short range (eastern mostly) deer hunting. Most AK firearms shoot this round, it’s pretty close to a .30-30.

   2007-02-18 19:23 Permalink

4. Standard Mischief Says :

   he also said:

   I’ve always been comfortable with the statement that hunters don’t use assault rifles. We’ve always been proud of our “sporting firearms.”

   We’re ticked off because some people want to use the “sporting purposes” as a wedge issue to divide and conquer us freedom types. Once they’ve outlawed all the cosmetically-challenged self-loading firearms, they’ll go after those who did not stick-up for the “evil black rifle” people. The finely crafted sporting firearms will become deadly scoped sniper rifles.

   2007-02-18 19:34 Permalink

5. Phil Welch Says :

   but the .223 is great stuff for varmint hunting

   Yeah, but we’re not talking about caliber, we’re talking about semiauto vs. bolt-action.

   Not everything is a plot to take away your guns. Hell, the Democrats done give up on that tactic ever since it took Congress away from them in the 90′s. Hunters speaking out against using assault rifles to hunt doesn’t hurt the movement nearly as much as a bunch of paranoid gun nuts freaking out about it.

   2007-02-18 19:40 Permalink

6. Standard Mischief Says :

   Hunters who would never touch an Evil Black Rifle must be underrepresented on the tubes of ‘net. This DDoS shows that there’s a bunch of us “crazy ass gun nuts”.

   We’re also plenty touchy on this point because when a congress-critter shows his stripes, and that stripe is a yellow one down his spine(less) back, they tend to trot this line out too. Perhaps there’s a bunch of pent-up frustration.

   Oh, and here’s the link to the bill about the re-authorization of the ban on weapons that look like assault weapons. It’s called H.R. 1022. Perhaps we’re OK because of the Blue Dog (D) critters, but not all of them have given up on trying to pass bad gun bills.

   2007-02-18 20:02 Permalink

7. Standard Mischief Says :

   I’d hate to update the blog’s feed, but this is another good comment from someone over at Jim-Bo’s blog:

   Jim, I’ve met you at sportsmen’s shows and at the SHOT Show. I’ve read your work for a couple of decades now. I’m really pretty disappointed in you, because I don’t think you get WHY people are so upset.

   I’ve hunted for almost 40 years, and owned guns for the same amount of time. I’ve been in the military. I’ve shot competitively. And, I’ve owned a gun shop and shooting range. I own ARs, as well as several beautiful high-grade custom bolt-action and single-shot hunting rifles, and I don’t appreciate being called a “terrorist.”

   People could care less if you do, or don’t, hunt with an AR-15, or Mini-14, or AK-47, or SKS, or whatever. That’s your business. When you start denigrating people over their choice of hunting firearms, then it becomes a problem. When you call them “terrorists” and call for banning their weapon of choice, then it really becomes a problem. And, in today’s political climate, where those who work to ban all firearms look for any and every opportunity to divide the gun owner community on the basis of cosmetics so they can gradually ban all guns by banning this type and then that type, you just handed anti-gunners some potent information. “Why not ban AR-15s from hunting?” they’ll say. “After all, noted hunting authority Jim Zumbo says that they are unsporting and don’t belong in the woods!”

   Jim, the problem isn’t that you didn’t realize people hunt with AR-15s. It’s that both your original post and your apology demonstrate you truly do not believe in the right to keep and bear arms, and that it extends to beyond what type of firearms may be suitable for a week-long elk hunt in the Rockies.

   So, going on a hunt with Ted Nugent and using AR-15s isn’t going to fix the problem. How about writing an article on how people who DON’T hunt also have a right to own firearms, including AR-15s, and maybe then following up with another article specifically for non-hunters who own semiautomatic rifles derived from military weapons, directed at how to get them to start hunting with those weapons. After all, we need more hunters!

   Hunting as an activity is decreasing in popularity. I’d venture to say that, unlike when I was a boy, the majority of gun owners are NOT hunters. If you, as a recognized authority on hunting (certainly not guns), dismiss these people for their taste in firearms, then in a few years don’t be surprised when hunting as a legitimate sporting activity is ended. After all, we don’t need to hunt to feed ourselves, and we can farm elk and deer if we like the taste of venison. It’s just a cruel blood sport, isn’t it, and no one needs to kill a poor cute defenseless prairie dog or a clever and handsome coyote.

   Gun owners and Americans in general are pretty forgiving… if they think you’re sincere AND if they see that you’ve changed. But the burden is on you, and not on them. If your apology really is sincere and you really don’t think these guns should be banned from hunting, then you need to start writing… and soon.

   Posted by: J Clifford | February 18, 2007 at 08:15 PM

   http://www.thirtysecondthoughts.blogspot.com

   2007-02-18 21:54 Permalink

8. Standard Mischief Says :

   update in comments, so as to not bump the feed:

   
$ lynx -dump http://outdoorlife.blogs.com/zumbo/2007/02/assault_rifles_.html|grep 'February 18'|wc -l
2865


   so that’s a total of 2865 comments for yesterday alone.

   2007-02-19 08:50 Permalink

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