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	<title>Comments on: DC v. Heller: When life hands you crap, you turn it into a way to make non-felons voluntarily turn in their firearms.</title>
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		<title>By: Standard Mischief &#187; Heller: Just call me the Waffle News Network</title>
		<link>http://standardmischief.com/blog/2008/07/17/when-life-hands-you-crap-you-turn-it-into-a-way-to-make-non-felons-voluntarily-turn-in-their-firearms/comment-page-1/#comment-26721</link>
		<dc:creator>Standard Mischief &#187; Heller: Just call me the Waffle News Network</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 21:33:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] first I jumped to the conclusion that DC would hold permit requesters&#8217; firearms for a few weeks, just because they can, when they brought them in for the permit [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] first I jumped to the conclusion that DC would hold permit requesters&#8217; firearms for a few weeks, just because they can, when they brought them in for the permit [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Standard Mischief</title>
		<link>http://standardmischief.com/blog/2008/07/17/when-life-hands-you-crap-you-turn-it-into-a-way-to-make-non-felons-voluntarily-turn-in-their-firearms/comment-page-1/#comment-26717</link>
		<dc:creator>Standard Mischief</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 21:50:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Harold, you&#039;re welcome.

 The bloodbath that you are talking about is likely the November 22, 1994 shooting by Bennie Lee Lawson Jr. Unpossable because handgun ownership was banned at the time, Bennie had been investigated by the police for a triple homicide but was cleared. However, apparently his fellow gang members thought he was a snitch. To redeem himself, he decided to kill a cop. Records conflict out there on the tubez of web, but &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mcrkba.org/Miller_Delity.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this RKBA friendly page, run by &lt;strong&gt;people of the gun&lt;/strong&gt; that know what they are talking about when they talk guns,&lt;/a&gt; claims that it was a full-auto  MAC-11. Not exactly the typical homicide in DC. 

I guess I said what I said because it&#039;s pretty absurd that a resident would go to the station to register their firearm and not be able to take it back home right away after passing a (Brady bunch approved) NICS check. Instead, they must turn over their weapon of self-defense, get fingerprinted, pass a written test that we know nothing about in advance, bring passport photos, pay a fee and then leave with paperwork saying the process was &quot;in the works&quot;, while the police recorded the serial number, shot some rounds through the firearm, and saves some shell casings in a futile and expensive attempt to match a homeowners firearm to an unsolved crime.

While the District resident is busy pleading to the state for permission to exercise a right, the real criminals with firearms continue to roam the District. None of these barriers that Fenty and company have thrown up will do one bit to stop crime in the District. They just want to have the strictest gun laws in the nation that will pass court scrutiny. 

Had the police planned to return the weapons with a temporary permit after the owner passed a NICS check, I would have never harped on DC for their actions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harold, you&#8217;re welcome.</p>
<p> The bloodbath that you are talking about is likely the November 22, 1994 shooting by Bennie Lee Lawson Jr. Unpossable because handgun ownership was banned at the time, Bennie had been investigated by the police for a triple homicide but was cleared. However, apparently his fellow gang members thought he was a snitch. To redeem himself, he decided to kill a cop. Records conflict out there on the tubez of web, but <a href="http://www.mcrkba.org/Miller_Delity.html" rel="nofollow">this RKBA friendly page, run by <strong>people of the gun</strong> that know what they are talking about when they talk guns,</a> claims that it was a full-auto  MAC-11. Not exactly the typical homicide in DC. </p>
<p>I guess I said what I said because it&#8217;s pretty absurd that a resident would go to the station to register their firearm and not be able to take it back home right away after passing a (Brady bunch approved) NICS check. Instead, they must turn over their weapon of self-defense, get fingerprinted, pass a written test that we know nothing about in advance, bring passport photos, pay a fee and then leave with paperwork saying the process was &#8220;in the works&#8221;, while the police recorded the serial number, shot some rounds through the firearm, and saves some shell casings in a futile and expensive attempt to match a homeowners firearm to an unsolved crime.</p>
<p>While the District resident is busy pleading to the state for permission to exercise a right, the real criminals with firearms continue to roam the District. None of these barriers that Fenty and company have thrown up will do one bit to stop crime in the District. They just want to have the strictest gun laws in the nation that will pass court scrutiny. </p>
<p>Had the police planned to return the weapons with a temporary permit after the owner passed a NICS check, I would have never harped on DC for their actions.</p>
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		<title>By: Harold</title>
		<link>http://standardmischief.com/blog/2008/07/17/when-life-hands-you-crap-you-turn-it-into-a-way-to-make-non-felons-voluntarily-turn-in-their-firearms/comment-page-1/#comment-26711</link>
		<dc:creator>Harold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 17:53:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Because, you know, all those violent felons are just begging for a chance to shoot up police headquarters.&quot;

Actually, if memory serves, there was a pretty nasty bloodbath in a D.C. police station, one FBI agent was killed along with the perp.

It was just supposed to be a &quot;normal&quot; meeting of some sort, but the perp had other ideas....

BTW, thanks for the GoogleFu in finding Heller&#039;s initial 2002 application!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Because, you know, all those violent felons are just begging for a chance to shoot up police headquarters.&#8221;</p>
<p>Actually, if memory serves, there was a pretty nasty bloodbath in a D.C. police station, one FBI agent was killed along with the perp.</p>
<p>It was just supposed to be a &#8220;normal&#8221; meeting of some sort, but the perp had other ideas&#8230;.</p>
<p>BTW, thanks for the GoogleFu in finding Heller&#8217;s initial 2002 application!</p>
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		<title>By: Gregory Markle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gregory Markle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 17:18:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So what happens if they, for whatever convoluted reasons the DC overlords might come up with, reject your application?  Can you legally take possession of your handgun to once again place it &quot;in compliance&quot; with DC&#039;s laws or are they going to try confiscation at that point.  My money is on the latter...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So what happens if they, for whatever convoluted reasons the DC overlords might come up with, reject your application?  Can you legally take possession of your handgun to once again place it &#8220;in compliance&#8221; with DC&#8217;s laws or are they going to try confiscation at that point.  My money is on the latter&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: RAH</title>
		<link>http://standardmischief.com/blog/2008/07/17/when-life-hands-you-crap-you-turn-it-into-a-way-to-make-non-felons-voluntarily-turn-in-their-firearms/comment-page-1/#comment-26708</link>
		<dc:creator>RAH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:27:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DC residents are not dumb. Why bother, the law will change in 90 days? The ballistic requirement and all the hoops are too much trouble. Those who have guns, the good guys and bad guys, will just keep them in their homes un registered.

There are a lot of decent folks who have handguns for over 30 years in DC. All the elderly may have them since the 1960&#039;s. Others may have been given one or had bought one while a resident in another state. 

DC has shown they do not want registered guns and that is what they will get. All those guns in homes will stay unregistered.

IF DC were smart they would have made it easier so they have good records on who has a gun. Now they can languish in ignorance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DC residents are not dumb. Why bother, the law will change in 90 days? The ballistic requirement and all the hoops are too much trouble. Those who have guns, the good guys and bad guys, will just keep them in their homes un registered.</p>
<p>There are a lot of decent folks who have handguns for over 30 years in DC. All the elderly may have them since the 1960&#8242;s. Others may have been given one or had bought one while a resident in another state. </p>
<p>DC has shown they do not want registered guns and that is what they will get. All those guns in homes will stay unregistered.</p>
<p>IF DC were smart they would have made it easier so they have good records on who has a gun. Now they can languish in ignorance.</p>
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		<title>By: SayUncle &#187; Regarding Heller&#8217;s Denial</title>
		<link>http://standardmischief.com/blog/2008/07/17/when-life-hands-you-crap-you-turn-it-into-a-way-to-make-non-felons-voluntarily-turn-in-their-firearms/comment-page-1/#comment-26707</link>
		<dc:creator>SayUncle &#187; Regarding Heller&#8217;s Denial</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 14:55:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Heller 2: The city has rejected me [...]</description>
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